Imagine, if you will, a person with an IQ so low that the idea of toddling around on a plank of wood with wheels nailed to it sounds entertaining enough to adopt as a lifestyle. Further demonstrating his lack of higher brain function, this hypothetical person has spent a substantial sum of money on a very fancy plank of wood, colorful wheels, facial piercings, baggy overpriced clothes and a stupid haircut. This person also has a group of similiarly retarded individuals with which to hang out and commit various public displays of idiocy.
Now, with that mental picture fixed in your mind, where do you think these morons would go to play on their toys?
- A playground built on their own land, using funds and labor they provide, with all the curved plywood, rails and other appurtences they could desire, where they could ply their hobby in relative safety and without annoying others.
- A public playground, with pavement and other entertaining obstacles. They are perhaps not entirely welcome, but they are not banned either.
- A private parking lot and retail strip, where the tenant's desire to have such stupid behaviour occur elsewhere is announced via large signs that say "NO SKATEBOARDING! VIOLATORS WILL BE PROSECUTED!"
If you thought "Well, I know these people are idiots. And pdb expects to get a good post out of it, I'd have to say 3.", you'd be correct!
Usually, the encounter is brief:
A skateboarder goes trundling by pdb's door, on the sidewalk. pdb opens the door and summons his Lee Ermey voice:
"Hey Tony Hawk! Go do that somewhere else!"
"What?"
"Your toy! Pick it up and go play somewhere else."
Levels of stubborness and wishing to appear strong in the face of Da Man stretch the exchange out some:
"We're not hurting anyone!"
"Swell. Go not hurt anyone someplace else. Maybe where playing on skateboards isn't prohibited."
"Whatever." Skating resumes.
"Would you like me to call you a ride?"
"What?"
"Can I call you kids a ride, to take you somewhere else?"
"No, that's ok!"
"Then go. Now."
Of course, the 'ride' pdb has in mind is the local PD, who have remarkably shown up in under 10 minutes for a non-emergency call. So far, no skaters have taken pdb up on his kind offer.
Occasionally, stronger measures are required to make the point. One afternoon, pdb observes a couple of kids wanking around on their boards up and down the sidewalk. The preliminary exchange has already been employed to no effect, and pdb is feeling a tad aggrivated. Since pdb is walking around with the inventory clipboard anyway, a brief detour to the Xbox rental section is called for. Fortuitiously, the Xbox rental section is right next to the door…
…so that when one of the skaters comes rolling down the sidewalk…
…and pdb edges towards the door…
…pdb can give the door a good kick as the idiot skater is passing by! The door flies open, and sadly, as pdb's timing is off, the skater is merely winged by the aluminium frame instead of splatting against the glass. Still, the effect is dramatic, and the victim does a full 360-Fall On His Ass combo with a Cry For Mommy ender.
As the idiot skater picks himself off the parking lot, pdb gazes at the other loser chasing his friend's riderless skateboard as it rolls slowly out of the parking lot and into traffic.
"Things like this wouldn't happen if kids would just read signs. Say, can you read, junior? What does that sign over there say?"
"You hit me!"
"Actually, it says No Skateboarding! Don't they teach you dumb kids to read in school?"
"I'm telling my parents!"
"I'm sure they're already aware that you're an idiot, but feel free."
The kids depart. As it is a Sunday, the day crawls by until…
*ring*! "Thanks for calling pdb's game store, this is pdb."
"My son says you knocked him off his skateboard!"
"That's not true. It was the door that actually hit him. Just a tragic accident, really. I was going to open the door for a customer. So I went to open the door, and boom your son hit it. Ironically enough, I had just warned him against skateboarding on my sidewalk."
"He said that you cussed at him!"
"That would be a lie. While I did call him an idiot and imply that he was illiterate, I did not need to resort to gutter language to make my point."
"Well, we're never coming back to your store!"
"That would be assuming that you had ever been to my store at all. I do not believe that is the case."
*click*!
Happily, they have kept their promise.
{ 42 } Comments
you guys are the most idiotic morons I have ever seen displayed on the internet. you are extremely stereotyped and predjeduce, hardly any skaters are like what you think they are there smart and athletic your probably some fat ass that sits on his coputer all day long and eats chips
p.s. your gay
Who ever wasted their time on making up stupid stories about skateboarders is a fucking giant dumbass.
None of what you said is true. Your just being stupid, telling people what they love to do is idiotic. Your wrong! I would dare you to say this to a professional skateboarder right in his face. And i bet my life that he will beat the shit out of you and embarass you right in front of your Grandma.
Get a fucking life you twat!
I’m sorry, I have to agree with pdb here. Most skaters I have encountered are rude, lazy, irresponsible jerks who think the fact that they ride on a plank of wood with wheels gives them some right to present themselves as a hazard to pedestrians on sidewalks and along plazas. They feel they have a right to perform tricks on their boards that damage property and force property owners to either make costly repairs or install unsightly accents to prevent damage (most of what I see is skaters sliding their boards along planters and low benches, damaging, scuffing, or otherwise marking stone work or other surfaces).
You want to be a skater who is not seen as a blight upon the neighborhood, go to a skate park or get a job and build your own. And don’t whine that there are not enough skate parks, get active in your community and make a clear case that encourages your community to build or expand a skate park. And, “Dude, like we need somewhere to skate.” is not a good argument.
“you guys are the most idiotic morons I have ever seen displayed on the internet. you are extremely stereotyped and predjeduce”
Oh, holy hell, that’s priceless!
“…hardly any skaters are like what you think they are there smart and athletic…”
Well, I guess you’re not one of them.
They’re–their–there. Learn how to use them properly before you try flaming someone for their supposed lack of intelligence.
Also, it’s “you’re gay”, not “your gay.”
Damnation…Fish in a barrel.
“you are extremely stereotyped and predjeduce”
PDB, have you been stereotyped again? God I hate when that happens.
“Your gay” would be appropriate only if pdb owned a gay person and you were referring to said gay person.
Pdb cannot own any gay people, pursuant to the 13th Amendment to the Constitution (I may, however, be presuming too much in assuming you have heard of that document, let alone read it).
Do they teach you about the proper use of contractions in your locked ward? I am assuming that is where you reside, as anyone who had attended a proper school would already know such things.
Bunch of moronic stoners who’s main skill is accidentally balancing – and I’m wearing my “Thrasher” shirt right now that I got from the magazine owner/publisher because he’s a friend of a riding buddy.
Oh man, you’re wicked funny. I was just sitting around and hoping there was someone out there on the internet brave and smart enough to anonymously make fun of skateboarders where they can’t defend themselves because of your followers. And I got to hand it to them, they sure stuck it to that moron skate punk with his BAD GRAMMAR. And DirtCrashr, I just think it’s super cool how you’re generalizing 18.5 million people in the world as moronic stoners with no talent, you really impressed me there. Cause, none of you guys were ever “toddling around on a plank of wood with wheels nailed to it.” Wait a sec, there aren’t any nails on a ska- oh, what does it matter, you’re still crazy cool. And none of your friends or family members would ever do that, cause it’s… like… stupid, right? Man, PDB, I thought my day was going to be boring and lame until I read your little story about that poor, sad child… what was it… “Tony Hawk?” Oh man, you sure stuck it to that guy in your mind. I bet he’ll never become world famous and richer than you could ever hope to be because of toddling around on a plank. Anyways, you guys, I just had to give you my admiration and sincere hope that you get the shit beat out of you by a Skateboarding Loser Horde- I MEAN, that you keep putting out this super productive… what is it, a message board for you and your douchebag asshole cronies to make up stories about skaters getting dissed, and laugh about them where you can’t get your ass kicked by someone who doesn’t blog about his bullshit thoughts, he lets you know in person. You’re pathetic, cowardly, nitpicking, arrogant, and stupid. (I don’t mean that as an insult, I sincerely believe you have a low mental capacity to put this bullshit on the internet.) I know you and your little friends are going to insult this and try to find some grammatical mistake to focus your lame-ass argument on, but I’m not coming back here to check this site ever again… so this can be another one of those things you guys all laugh about, but no one else finds out about… and if they did, do you think they’d care?
Nice grammar, though.
judgemental prick, i hope they come back and smash every store window with their boards. you know those things can break jaws and crack skulls easy? lucky these kids didnt have tempers, you fucking douche.
Chuffson, you may or may not be aware of this, but the word “chuffer” is British slang for “asshole.” Ergo, your name implies that your parents are…errr…that you are a…well, never mind.
You’re a Dick, I’ve yet to see a jaw-breaking, skull-cracking plank of wood stop a copper-coated piece of lead hurtling through the air at 1200 fps. Assault with a deadly weapon can be legally met with equally deadly force. Use your critical thinking skills on this.
For what it’s worth, I skateboard and roller-blade, but I’ve never ridden where I wasn’t welcome, BECAUSE
I respected other people’s property.
To the aptly named “Youre a dick”: perhaps a small lesson in manners would not be lost on you. Here’s hoping you get this point.
Private property is just that, and to threaten someone with damage to private property is a crime. To do so while encouraging others to follow you is conspiracy to commit a crime, and could also be construed as inciteful behavior, also a crime. To do so while also implying that bodily injury could occur could appear as threatening, and since this is pdb’s site, he has your IP address and could press the issue with the law, if he so chose. Since you did this over telecommunications equipment, that might even venture into Federal territory. Fun game, no?
Since you appear to believe it is OK to do this from the not-so-anonymous confines where your computer resides, it might come as a surprise to know that you can be traced. By anyone with enough will to do so. At any time. With or without a warrant. And, that IP addresses track to physical locations. And that your ISP will not shield you from an investigation into criminal behavior
I hope this information interests you.
Now, with this in mind please read and heed: if you made the same threat against me, and then attempted to back it up while on my property, you might find that old, judgemental, douche-bag pricks like me have no sense of humor and might even be difficult to intimidate. God help you if I am in fear for my life…
Newbius
Man, you killed my argument there.
Wow Chuffson, I thought you weren’t “coming back here to check this site ever again.”
You had an argument? Really?
You know peedoo, I miss your “Game Store Merchant” stories. It’s too bad there’s no money in the business, because those were some funny shit.
He didn’t dispute the stoner part. Dude, I’ve been in the Thrasher headquarters and seen and met the writers and layout artists – their main emphasis is on the desperately urgent need to be cool – or cooler than someone else. But it’s a small pecking circle, or small circle of peckers, or circle of small peckers – whatever, it’s in San Francisco.
Dixie: One of my friends told me to check your comments, so yes, I came back on. Is it that astonishing?
pdb: Well, my argument is that lumping together 18 million people as retarded idiots and posting it on a blog mostly frequented by your admirers isn’t productive or helpful to anyone in any way. Your argument seems to be that all skateboarders are:
1: Idiots (which can be proven untrue)
2: Retards (which should be offensive to more than just skateboarders when used in that way, but can also be proven untrue)
And that you yourself are better than them in some way, which I just disagree with. You’re just throwing around insults at people who don’t deserve them and making fun of the people who protest it. Am I being that unreasonable when I say that you’re not being such a great guy yourself?
Chuffson:
Astonishing? (Ass-tonishing seems more your style)
No, just dishonest. You made a promise, and you didn’t keep it.
all skateboarders are:
No. Just the morons like you who ride places that are unsafe, illegal, and specifically posted against it – and then can’t assign the blame correctly.
I’d love for you to prove that skateboarders who cannot read “NO SKATEBOARDING ALLOWED” aren’t somehow idiots. Granted, illiteracy doesn’t automatically mean idiocy, but the two are usually correlated in the standard jargon.
posting it on a blog mostly frequented by your admirers isn’t productive or helpful to anyone in any way.
And posting a reply 4 years after it was posted was?
Well, I’m glad you want to be productive. Perhaps you could start by patrolling the areas, and stopping your fellow skateboarders when they break the law. Maybe you can teach literacy classes, and teach them how to read. (Besides, they really should be reading when they’re recovering from their broken bones, not just watching television.) Best of luck to you.
You’re just throwing around insults at people who don’t deserve them
Survey says: XXX.
Apparently most of the readers here believe they do deserve them. Funny about that, almost like skateboarders were a pain in the ass that people around the country have learned to hate.
If you truly disagree with me, then use your common sense. Any idiot can pick pieces out of comments and argue little, unrelated points, like the fact that I checked the blog again. You should probably look at my whole argument before trying to make me out to be an idiot too. And please, no more stupid jokes or puns. You expect me to take your side of the argument seriously, and I find it more than a little difficult when you do stuff like that.
Unix-Jedi: “Ass-tonishing seems more your style”
Wow, making immature and idiotic puns is really helping your “I’m smarter than the skateboarders” argument. Sorry I’m being all dishonest on you, just couldn’t stand to see such a pretty comment board almost solely dominated by misinformed douchebags.
Unix-Jedi: “Just the morons like you who ride places that are unsafe, illegal, and specifically posted against it – and then can’t assign the blame correctly.”
First, I’d like you to take another look at my post. I never said I skated in banned places. I never said it was okay to do that. I agree with you for the most part on this point, although I think they do it more for the thrill than because they’re illiterate. It’s true that trespassing is wrong, but I’m not sure that makes them any stupider than you.
Unix-Jedi: “And posting a reply 4 years after it was posted was [productive]?”
Well… yeah. You’re reading it, aren’t you? The only reason I’m here is because PDB misinformed you all, and I’m trying to correct it. If I can convince you that skateboarders aren’t all stupid potheads, it will have been productive.
Unix-Jedi: “Apparently most of the readers here believe they do deserve them.”
You may have gathered by now that in my opinion, most of the readers are insensible, shallow pricks. And if you really strain that brain of yours, you’ll come to the conclusion that I couldn’t care less about what most of the readers think. The people who frequent this blog frequent it for a reason- they agree with it. Since I disagree with this blog, it stands to reason that I’d DISAGREE WITH THE READERS. I’m arguing with you and not your friends because they care more about good grammar than a reasonable argument.
Chuffson: If I can convince you that skateboarders aren’t all stupid potheads, it will have been productive.
FAIL!
That was a good one, Dixie.
If you truly disagree with me, then use your common sense.
In Other Words: I got my ass kicked, so let’s be civil after the fact.
Let’s see, how did you start off your comment?
I was just sitting around and hoping there was someone out there on the internet brave and smart enough to anonymously make fun of skateboarders where they can’t defend themselves because of your followers. … a message board for you and your douchebag asshole cronies to make up stories about skaters getting dissed, and laugh about them where you can’t get your ass kicked by someone who doesn’t blog about his bullshit thoughts, he lets you know in person.
Is that in any way based in “Common sense” or is it emotional ranting and childish petulance?
Sorry, you ask ask going forward for a civil discussion, but you don’t get to retroactively change the rules – and ignore that you’re the one who set the bar low – demanding other people play by a different set.
Any idiot can pick pieces out of comments and argue little, unrelated points, like the fact that I checked the blog again.
Apparently not. The fact you checked the blog again shows that you don’t hold to your promises and your unverified word isn’t trustable. That’s not little or unrelated – it’s directly related to your veracity and how much trust we should put in the words you say.
You should probably look at my whole argument before trying to make me out to be an idiot too.
Before or after you were calling pdb pathetic, cowardly, nitpicking, arrogant, and stupid. ?
I’ve known pdb for almost 15 years and the only thing that might be correct is “nitpicking”. That’s also known as “making sure you’re right”. Usually “nitpicking” is the counter-claim when you’ve pointed out that some internet flame warrior has some major fallacies in their base belief system.
“Nits” add up. Quickly.
And please, no more stupid jokes or puns. You expect me to take your side of the argument seriously, and I find it more than a little difficult when you do stuff like that.
Again, I refer you back to comment #10. Given the level of idiocy and lack of thought that generated that comment, I felt it apt, and funny.
Wow, making immature and idiotic puns is really helping your “I’m smarter than the skateboarders” argument.
No, that was my attempt to play on your level. You shouldn’t be that offended by it, it’s hypocritical for you to be offended. But in any event, this is a mixed argument, for that wasn’t what proves I’m smarter than the skateboarders. My ability to read and refrain from illegal activity that I even need to be asked to cease the first time due to my increased intellectual ability over the average skater demonstrates that.
First, I’d like you to take another look at my post. I never said I skated in banned places.
No, you just defended those who did.
I never said it was okay to do that.
No, you just defended those who did.
I agree with you for the most part on this point, although I think they do it more for the thrill than because they’re illiterate.
This is more damning if they are literate and are doing it in deliberate defiance of the law. I don’t care why they do it, there are a lot of reasons why it’s illegal, why pdb’s comeuppance (also known as “physical demonstration of why the sign is there”) was so funny.
It’s true that trespassing is wrong, but I’m not sure that makes them any stupider than you.
You again seem to have some major problems with base definitions. Criminals breaking the law for their own fun, putting other people at risk aren’t any smarter than those of us who don’t do that? Seriously?
The only reason I’m here is because PDB misinformed you all, and I’m trying to correct it.
Misinformed us… How? That kids who defy posted signs, verbal warnings, and go home crying to their mommy when their actions are demonstrated to be bad aren’t actually stupid? Sorry, I think he’s more than made his point.
pdb: where do you think these morons would go to play on their toys?
1) A playground built on their own land, using funds and labor they provide, with all the curved plywood, rails and other appurtences they could desire, where they could ply their hobby in relative safety and without annoying others.
2) A public playground, with pavement and other entertaining obstacles. They are perhaps not entirely welcome, but they are not banned either.
This post is about those who are the trespassers, the dangers to other people, the (presumably) illiterate morons. Tony Hawk is many things, but illiterate or stupid aren’t any of them. If you want to say that they’re literate and skating in full defiance of the posted warnings, it’s hardly proving your point that skateboarders aren’t all stupid potheads, missing the point we’re talking about the subset of skaters that pdb is describing.
Okay, because I’ve returned to finish arguing my point I’m somehow less trustworthy than you? If you have a problem believing anything I say, look it up.
1: My original comment was sarcastic, and my irritation wasn’t unreasonable. Why don’t you compare mine to PDB’s and see whose is more childish and petulant?
2: I wasn’t trying to compliment PDB when I called him “nitpicking,” and you’ve gotten the definition completely wrong. Nitpicking is finding little thinks and making them out to be bigger than they are, which is exactly what you’ve been doing.
3: My original comment was hardly idiotic. I said what I thought in the only way you and your buds would understand, which turned out to be true. The worst you could truthfully say is that it was impolite, and that was certainly the case. I don’t mind, however, because I don’t think PDB deserves it.
4: When making a strong argument with a person you don’t respect, never attempt to play on their level. You’ll quickly find that you lose all respectibility too. I’m not offended, and I’m not a hypocrite; my original comment was more intelligent than any ass joke, regardless of profanity.
I could spend hours fighting all your points, but I really only care about one of them. This is a quote from PDB’s blog.
“Imagine, if you will, a person with an IQ so low that the idea of toddling around on a plank of wood with wheels nailed to it sounds entertaining enough to adopt as a lifestyle. Further demonstrating his lack of higher brain function, this hypothetical person has spent a substantial sum of money on a very fancy plank of wood, colorful wheels, facial piercings, baggy overpriced clothes and a stupid haircut. This person also has a group of similiarly retarded individuals with which to hang out and commit various public displays of idiocy.”
Read that. Now read it again, because you seem to have missed a large part of it. You keep on saying that PDB was only insulting criminal skateboarders, and that just isn’t the case. He’s not talking about a subset of skaters. He’s talking about “a person with an IQ so low that the idea of toddling around on a plank of wood with wheels nailed to it sounds entertaining enough to adopt as a lifestyle.” I don’t care how you twist that, it’s not just talking about trespassers.
You also seem a confused about stupidity, ironically enough. Just because some skateboarders may trespass where they’re not supposed to, or wear baggy pants, doesn’t make them any dumber than you or I. They don’t sit there and think “Hey, maybe I should trespass outside that asshole’s store so he can call the cops or slam a door into me.” They do it because all skateboarders are consistently lumped together and treated like some sort of disease by people like you and your friend. Skateboarders aren’t retarded freaks, and it’s no dumber to ride a skateboard than it is to write a blog that condemns and insults a largely innocent group of people.
Okay, because I’ve returned to finish arguing my point I’m somehow less trustworthy than you?
Yes.
Let’s look again at Comment # 10.
but I’m not coming back here to check this site ever again
Now, let’s parse. You claimed that you were never coming back to check this site ever again. Yet you came back.
You made a promise that you did not keep. Yes, that makes you, by definition, less trustworthy than I. As soon as you visited again, you broke your spoken word.
Again, for those of us who haven’t sustained many concussions and brain injuries, this is blatantly obvious. You have damaged your own credibility by making a claim and failing to adhere to it.
My original comment was sarcastic, and my irritation wasn’t unreasonable.
You set the tone for what followed, and you and you alone are responsible for the tone. Your irritation was completely unreasonable, unjustified, and when you got back sarcastic and irritated comments, you shifted the goalposts, changing the rules for you, and attempted to insult us, let’s see, how did you put it?
And please, no more stupid jokes or puns. You expect me to take your side of the argument seriously, and I find it more than a little difficult when you do stuff like that.
Oh, right.
So, you shifted the goalposts. It’s a dishonest debating move. That is, you again were dishonest. Demonstrating that you are not trustworthy (at least as much as I, based on this discussion.)
Why don’t you compare mine to PDB’s and see whose is more childish and petulant?
You lose. Showing that your judgement isn’t very good, and thus (Everybody together), that you’re less trustworthy. (You might want to look up the definition of “trustworthy”, you seem to be unclear on it.)
On your way to the T’s, stop in at the N’s.
Nitpicking is finding little thinks and making them out to be bigger than they are, which is exactly what you’ve been doing.
Again, not surprisingly, you’re wrong. Nitpicking is picking nits – little things that make up an argument. While sometimes you can ignore sub-parts of the argument, at some point, you do need to “pick nits”, because if your argument’s foundation is flawed, there’s no logical way to make it to a reasonable conclusion.
My original comment was hardly idiotic.
Oh, no, it was totally idiotic.
I bet he’ll never become world famous and richer than you could ever hope to be because of toddling around on a plank.
What odds are you offering, cause I’d be willing to put some cash down that that idiot is right now on probation, having served time in jail?
When making a strong argument with a person you don’t respect, never attempt to play on their level. You’ll quickly find that you lose all respectibility too.
Well, Chuffson, old chum, you don’t get to lecture me on the conduct of an argument, after you’ve been demonstrably spanked repeatedly. When you’re getting intellectually spanked, don’t try and take the moral high ground, you just look like a bigger loser.
and I’m not a hypocrite; my original comment was more intelligent than any ass joke, regardless of profanity.
Yeah, on the way to the N’s, stop at H. See, when you post an insulting trolling rant, and then get one in return, and then act like the responding party is in the wrong… It’s hypocritical. This is why you should stay in school and stop toddling around on a plank with wheels. You learn these things. Even if you should think it deserved based on the post, you set the bar low. Let’s look at Chuffson’s Greatest Hits:
I just had to give you my admiration and sincere hope that you get the shit beat out of you by a Skateboarding Loser Horde… a message board for you and your douchebag asshole cronies to make up stories about skaters getting dissed, and laugh about them where you can’t get your ass kicked by someone who doesn’t blog about his bullshit thoughts, he lets you know in person. You’re pathetic, cowardly, nitpicking, arrogant, and stupid.
So douching (which I suspect you need to stop at the D’s before you get to the H’s now), is fine, legitimate criticism. But “Ass-tonishing” is just completely beyond the pale? This is again, hypocrisy, and it again, demonstrates that you’re not as trustworthy as I am. I keep hammering this on you, because you’re missing basic principles. Which is nitpicking, because it adds up to you’re totally rhetorically lost. You’re using words you don’t know the definition of, you’re taking hypocritical stands, and assuming moral outrage, and casting aspersions without any facts to back them up. You’re “hoping” for felony criminal acts, against pdb and presumably myself and others, but really, skateboarders are upstanding people! And we’ll FCKU UR SHITE UP IF YOU DON”T RESPECT US! … Right. Way to prove your point there, Poindexter.
By the way, you made a claim there. Let me assure you this incident did happen, you claim it didn’t. You should ask pdb if he’s still got the security camera footage. Again, back to that “trustworthy” issue… And really, that’s 2 ticks there because of your violent wishes to someone who disagrees with you.
This is a quote from PDB’s blog. … Read that. Now read it again,
Again, old bean, the reason I’m kicking your ass here is because of your attitude. My literacy hasn’t been in doubt here. And belief me, I’ve read it many times. And chortled and congratulated pdb on his wit and descriptive ability.
He’s not talking about a subset of skaters.
Well, my days of underestimating skaters are certainly coming to a beginning if you’re representative.
Just because some skateboarders may trespass where they’re not supposed to, or wear baggy pants, doesn’t make them any dumber than you or I.
Perhaps not you. However, the inclusion of myself into that sentence renders it incorrect.
They do it because all skateboarders are consistently lumped together and treated like some sort of disease by people like you and your friend.
You’ve completely twisted the cause and effect here. pdb didn’t go to a Skate Park and search out a nemesis to torment him, to set up a p3nage moment that has gone down in history.
Skateboarders aren’t retarded freaks
Not initially, after they fall off the boards a few times it’s arguable. You’ve at least gotten away from the name calling. But your argument demonstrates a complete inability to properly use English words, remember even the shortest discussion thread, a entitlement mentality (also known as “Mama’s Boy”) – the exact mentality exercised by the “sk8ter” in question, I might note – thus making pdb’s ridicule even more hilarious.
Want to go count up the score on who’s been more trustworthy here? Yes, you can use a calculator if you need to.
So, you’re trying to say that every single skateboarder is illiterate or retarded or just stupider than you? Maybe I’m wrong, but that’s what I’m getting from this. I’m not going to go through your post and fight twenty different points when this is the only one that matters, though I do think you must have a lot of time on your hands. I mean, you spend so long ranting against a person you don’t say you trust or respect while ignoring their main argument. I don’t care if you think I’m trustworthy. You don’t have to trust me to understand my argument.
So, you’re trying to say that every single skateboarder is illiterate or retarded or just stupider than you?
Nope.
Maybe I’m wrong
That’s the way to bet.
The race isn’t always to the swift, nor the contest to the strong, but that’s the way to bet. This is an important lesson to learn as you grow older.
I’m not going to go through your post and fight twenty different points when this is the only one that matters
Probably the smartest thing you can do when you’re losing all the abovementioned points. Back to trustworthiness, though, it would be honest to admit you know you got your ass kicked.
though I do think you must have a lot of time on your hands.
See, Moriarity, there you go with those negative, wrong vibes again!
I mean, you spend so long ranting against a person you don’t say you trust or respect while ignoring their main argument.
Which main argument is that? (and technically, it’s not “You don’t say you trust or respect…” but “You said you don’t trust or respect…” That error actually changes the meaning of your sentence. Nor did I “rant”. I “Fisked”. There’s a large difference. Your first comment was a “rant”, for example.)
Again, this is your failure to be able to debate, you’re moving your goalposts around. Remember, you started telling pdb that that skater was going to become famous and rich and send ninja robot thugs to break up his store. You mean that wasn’t your point?
You didn’t make a “main argument”. You can certainly try to now going forward, but you don’t get to retroactively declare one of several contradictory ideas to be your main argument.
It’s not my failure if you can’t concisely and clearly state your opinions and back them up with facts. It’s yours. Remember that entitlement mentality and lack of comprehension that we were laughing about with the story? Yeah, you’re demonstrating it again.
I don’t care if you think I’m trustworthy. You don’t have to trust me to understand my argument.
Ah, but there’s the rub – when people read this in perpetuity, they’ll look at what you said, and what I said, and they’ll compare which of us is more trustworthy based only upon the words on the screen. They’ll see which of us started in the gutter, how we came out, they’ll note your inability to use words correctly, your shifting of the goalposts. They’ll note my stunning prose, craftily tuned snark, use of logic, and deduce that I must have the abs of a Greek God.
I think you’ve got some promise, you’ve actually managed to shift out of your gutter talk (but haven’t acknowledged your role there) and are getting closer to making a defendable argument. Learn from your mistakes here, don’t reinforce the stereotype of the loser skater, and you’ll be better for it. Seriously.
It’s a raw promise that needs a lot of practice and learning. You need to learn how to use words correctly, and learn their definitions. Admit when you’re wrong, learn how to concede points, and leave points contended but left alone for now.
No, not every skater is illiterate and an idiot.
But it’s the way to bet. When you’re dealing with the skaters on sidewalks, in places of business? Damn straight.
Let’s do a search for the only skater we can name. Can you show me any picture of Tony Hawk with facial piercings, baggy clothes, unwashed hair?
Gee, funny that.
Let’s go a Google search for “top skateboarders” and We find that…
All the top pro vert skaters for 2008 are from Brazil!
Oh, that’s why I never heard of them. I guess.
… in every competition he showed up for!
… if he could have made it to more contests. …
… missed the first couple of contests …
This is admittedly, a bit of a low blow, but I’m not apologizing. So at the very tip top height of the sport, there’s still only one name known outside of it, and the best skaters can’t even make it to the competitions. This doesn’t jibe well with your previous promises of fame and fortune.
Is every skateboarder an idiot? No.
But many are as demonstrated by your entry to this post. You behaved true to stereotype, and bitched about being stereotyped. There’s a reason for stereotyping, and that it’s usually got more than a few grains of truth to it. It’s entirely possible that it’s due to mistake, or incorrect information.
Looking at the post and the comments, who’s closer to proving their stereotype of skaters is the correct one, pdb or you?
U-J, extra bonus points for the Kelly’s Heroes quote.
Unix,
“Just because some skateboarders may trespass where they’re not supposed to, or wear baggy pants, doesn’t make them any dumber than you or I.
Perhaps not you. However, the inclusion of myself into that sentence renders it incorrect.”
This made me laugh out loud.
“That’s the way to bet.”
Yeah, I was trying to put it to you in a way that didn’t hurt your feelings. What I should have said was, “Either you’re a complete dunce who can’t type a clear sentence, or you’re a complete dunce who discriminates even as they preach logic.”
“Probably the smartest thing you can do when you’re losing all the abovementioned points. Back to trustworthiness, though, it would be honest to admit you know you got your ass kicked.”
No, you’re just long winded and kind of obnoxious. Good job reading my mind, though.
“Which main argument is that?”
Seriously? Well, if you really want to know.
First post: “I just think it’s super cool how you’re generalizing 18.5 million people in the world as moronic stoners with no talent, you really impressed me there.” That was sarcasm, and that was my argument. Still not convinced I had one?
Second post: “Man, you killed my *argument* there.” Almost makes it seems like I’m talking about an argument, huh?
Third post: “Well, my *argument* is that lumping together 18 million people as retarded idiots and posting it on a blog mostly frequented by your admirers isn’t productive or helpful to anyone in any way.” I don’t know, but it sounded like I just stated exactly what my argument was.
Fourth post: “You should probably look at my whole *argument* before trying to make me out to be an idiot too.” Hey, there’s that word again. Say it with me: argument. My argument. That I’ve been making this whole time. I don’t think you’re an idiot, so you must have been demonstrating your untrustworthiness by either not checking your facts, or deliberately misleading everyone. Tsk tsk.
“Remember, you started telling pdb that that skater was going to become famous and rich and send ninja robot thugs to break up his store.” No. I said that he could become famous and rich (like hundreds of Am and Pro skaters today) you know, kind of like “don’t judge” but with a specific example. As funny as the ninja robot thug thing was, I didn’t say anything like that, so it doesn’t seem a valid point. In fact, it seems a little bit silly. All I said was that I hope he got beaten up, which I stand by, since he has no problem slamming doors into skateboarders. As stupid as said skateboarder may have been, that was immature and not becoming of an intelligent person. And that comment couldn’t be my point, because I didn’t say it. See how that works? Hey, wait… since you lied about something I said, again deliberately misleading everyone, you must be untrustworthy.
“…you don’t get to retroactively declare one of several contradictory ideas to be your main argument.”
1: My ideas didn’t contradict. I was saying pretty much the same thing the whole time.
2: See above for argument.
“…they’ll note your inability to use words correctly…” I’m guessing this is another dig at the “nitpicking” sub-argument. You think you won that one, huh? Well, I’m willing to go back and finish it. Dictionary.com helped me find the exact definition, so you can’t quote my untrustworthiness on this one. “Nitpicking: To criticize by focusing on inconsequential details.” Inconsequential is another big one for you, so just to make it easier- “Inconsequential: insignificant, trivial, illogical.” In other words, to break it down for you English wizards out there, nitpicking is criticizing by focusing on insignificant details. Misleading us again, or simply didn’t check your definitions before trying to make fun of me and my bad english? A wise man once said, “Back to trustworthiness, though, it would be honest to admit you know you got your ass kicked.”
“…when people read this in perpetuity, they’ll look at what you said, and what I said, and they’ll compare which of us is more trustworthy based only upon the words on the screen.” What, you mean they don’t base our trustworthiness on, say, Harry Potter books? Even without that bit of failed over-explaining, though, I disagree. I’d formulate my opinion not on which person I trust more, or even which person won the argument. I’d make my opinion on who I agree with personally, trust aside. In this case, I’d talk to someone I know who skateboards on private property, and see if they’re retarded or not. I did just that, and was unsurprised to find that they’re just as intelligent as most non-skateboarders I’ve talked to. Maybe PDB fans just need someone else to base their opinions off of because they’re too busy insulting large groups of people to think of their own.
“I think you’ve got some promise, you’ve actually managed to shift out of your gutter talk (but haven’t acknowledged your role there) and are getting closer to making a defendable argument. Learn from your mistakes here, don’t reinforce the stereotype of the loser skater, and you’ll be better for it. Seriously.”
That would make me feel so much better if you hadn’t just insulted me in just about any way I could think of, from saying I don’t know the definitions of words to calling me a hypocrite and a goalpost shifter. Gee whiz, thanks. Constructive criticism is great when it isn’t laced with insults the whole way through. If “gutter talk” is profanity, then yeah, I swore at PDB. I like to think it was justified when he called me and over 18 million other people badly dressed retards. I know you were trying to be nice, but come on, it’s a little late for that. Or early, since you insulted me later as well.
“No, not every skater is illiterate and an idiot.
But it’s the way to bet. When you’re dealing with the skaters on sidewalks, in places of business? Damn straight.” You’re still assuming that trespassing skaters are idiotic illiterates. Let me illustrate how silly that is. You’re saying that if I went up to a skateboarder trespassing on someone’s private property and asked them if they trespass, they’d say yes. I think you’re on to something there. You can’t base someone’s intelligence on one action, Greek God abs or not. Sorry.
I don’t really know what you’re trying to prove about Tony Hawk and the Vert contests. All we said about Tony Hawk was that he’s famous and wealthy, and there’s no disputing that. He’s also in his forties, and doesn’t really do Vert competitions anymore. And Brazilians won the 2008 competition? Good for them. That’s one of the great things about skateboarding, it isn’t like the Olympics. We don’t moan when someone from another country wins a competition. Could you try making this particular “low blow” a bit more clear?
“But many are as demonstrated by your entry to this post. You behaved true to stereotype, and bitched about being stereotyped.” I’m going to make sure I’m thinking of the right stereotype. Trespassing, illiterate, idiotic, retarded, poorly dressed, bad haircut, obnoxious and rude. So, I already said I disagree with trespassing. I’m obviously pretty good at reading; whatever jibes you make about my word definitions. While I think you’re kind of a douche I don’t question your intelligence, and I think you feel the same way judging by your fatherly advice and willingness to keep arguing. I don’t wear stupid baggy pants or pierce anything, I usually go for jeans and a T-shirt. I’m not retarded, I’m only rude and obnoxious when treated the same way, and my haircut is of incomparable beauty. So, I don’t exactly fit the bill. Granted, most of the skateboarders commenting on here haven’t shown quite as much brain power, but I think that was more out of righteous anger than stupidity. After all, no one likes to have something they love insulted.
“There’s a reason for stereotyping, and that it’s usually got more than a few grains of truth to it. It’s entirely possible that it’s due to mistake, or incorrect information.” It’s kind of funny that you’re the one arguing with me and not PDB, actually, since we seem to agree on most things. Yeah, there are stupid, rude, trespassing skateboarders. There are also famous, wealthy, and smart ones. Now we’re back to the whole “generalizing people” thing, which was my main argument. There are annoying bloggers, too, but I don’t go out and say that every single blogger is an idiot.
I appreciate your attempt to be decent, but it was kind of buried under insults and nonsense. Lecturing me in the middle of an argument is another dishonest technique to make me seem less worthy than you, whether you realize that or not. My advice is, try to use your logic without being annoying and don’t go overboard with frivolous points and trivial insults. You’re pretty smart, but that doesn’t give you the right to treat anyone you deem lesser like dirt, so try to spend more time being intelligent and less time being bothersome.
I think it’s fucking hilarious how commenters come along and prove my points for me.
And I’m not talking about Unix_Jedi.
You had a point other than that all skateboarders are retards?
Yeah, I was trying to put it to you in a way that didn’t hurt your feelings.
One of us here has had his feelings hurt and is still crying over it. Hint: Not Me.
Look, Chuffson, you came in here whining like a little bitch, profane, barely literate, insulting, wailing and whining, and then when you broke your promise, came back, then attacked others for being insulting, for “nitpicking”, for sterotyping – and tried to take the moral high ground.
You lost that back when you called pdb a douchebag and wished the skateboarders would use their billion-dollar Mechs to stomp his shop.
You predicted that the idiot who couldn’t see why skating inside the arc of a door was a bad idea and likely to cause injury would someday become a world-famous and rich skater.
“I just think it’s super cool how you’re generalizing 18.5 million people in the world as moronic stoners with no talent, you really impressed me there.” That was sarcasm, and that was my argument. Still not convinced I had one?
No, you’ve really not settled down on a single argument. That’s not actually an argument, that’s a rhetorical device, verging into logical fallacy.
What you’re doing there is somewhat merging Appeal to Common Practice and Appeal to Popularity, but without making any particular claim.
We’ll break it down: it’s super cool [Sarcasm indcating disagreement, but without actually stating how you feel] how you’re generalizing 18.5 million people in the world [A claimed and unverified number, implying value in numbers, see the local fallacies above] as moronic stoners with no talent [repeating the description, but without disputing it or disproving it] you really impressed me there. [Sarcasm, implying disagreement]
So no, you never actually made an argument. You just said there were a lot of skateboarders. Which doesn’t prove anything as to their drug use, illiteracy, or talent.
Second post: “Man, you killed my *argument* there.” Almost makes it seems like I’m talking about an argument, huh?
I believe you thought you had one – as I just demonstrated, this was erroneous. You never actually made a coherent argument or proved that pdb was wrong. You just said he was wrong.
Third post: “Well, my *argument* is that lumping together 18 million people as retarded idiots and posting it on a blog mostly frequented by your admirers isn’t productive or helpful to anyone in any way.” I don’t know, but it sounded like I just stated exactly what my argument was.
This is actually verging on a real argument, even though you’re referncing something that’s not actually an argument.
lumping together 18 million people as retarded idiots and posting it on a blog mostly frequented by your admirers isn’t productive or helpful to anyone in any way.”
This is an argument! Granted, it’s not quite the same as what you thought you said earlier – now you’re tasking pdb for where he said and what he said, and it’s utility, but this is actually debateable. But the argument now is the blog posting, not his sterotype and description!
But nay, say I and many others. This is extremely helpful, because we got to hear about the comeuppance of a glorious idiot. It brightened my day. It was linked to approvingly by several other blogs with many more regular readers. So the utility is debatable, but I say it’s well proven, but as long as you’re going for a utilitarian argument, that stays in the realm of opinion and can be debated!
Fourth post: “You should probably look at my whole *argument* before trying to make me out to be an idiot too.” Hey, there’s that word again.
When you’re wrong, you really should hold back on the snark. It makes you seem stupider than you otherwise would. I can say I’ve got a calico unicorn pony, but no matter how many times I refer to it doesn’t make it so.
I don’t think you’re an idiot, so you must have been demonstrating your untrustworthiness by either not checking your facts, or deliberately misleading everyone. Tsk tsk.
Again, you have to be certain of your rhetoric, as I just demonstrated you were referring to something that wasn’t an argument, so your attempt to return my snark is ineffective and damaging more to you.
All I said was that I hope he got beaten up, which I stand by, since he has no problem slamming doors into skateboarders. As stupid as said skateboarder may have been, that was immature and not becoming of an intelligent person.
Right. He’s got no problem slamming a door into a skateboarder.
…
What in the hell is wrong with you? If the skateboarder is SKATING WITHIN THE ARC OF TEH DOOR, they SHOULD GET A DOOR TO THE FACE. That’s not his fault, that’s him demonstrating – since the skaters previously ignored verbal warnings – conclusively why what they were doing was unsafe and forbidden.
That’s why we have such a good laugh, and why your complaints of the description of the skater are so pained. He wasn’t SMART ENOUGH TO STAY OUT OF THE REACH OF THE DOOR. It was very becoming of someone intelligent, and may – possibly have even taught a lesson to the stoned skater!
That would make me feel so much better if you hadn’t just insulted me in just about any way I could think of, from saying I don’t know the definitions of words to calling me a hypocrite and a goalpost shifter.
You forget. I also demonstrated what words you misused. And demonstrated when you moved the goalposts and were hypocritical. This is why you fail in a logical debate, you’re still whining over what I described your actions as, letting your emotions rule you. Did you use words incorrectly? Yes. Did you move your goalposts? Yes. Were you a hypocrite? Yup.
You’re still assuming that trespassing skaters are idiotic illiterates.
Stew on that one for a bit longer. Yep, I am.
Let me illustrate how silly that is. You’re saying that if I went up to a skateboarder trespassing on someone’s private property and asked them if they trespass, they’d say yes. I think you’re on to something there. You can’t base someone’s intelligence on one action, Greek God abs or not. Sorry.
This is a distinction without a difference. If they know they’re breaking the law, then punishment should be expected. After all, they’re breaking the law! Your claim is that they’re just stupid and criminal, not illiterate. I’ll point out that your concession and argument is based around an issue that’ss proving pdb’s original point.
I don’t really know what you’re trying to prove about Tony Hawk and the Vert contests.
Maybe you should stop arguing about how smart skaters are. I think everybody else who read that understood it.
There is 1 skater in the world who’s famous. 1. Tony Hawk. That’s it. Period. I can’t name a single other skater. Well, wait, no, I can. I’m sorry. Michael J. Fox. He skateboarded around in “Back to the Future”. Ok, those are the two skaters I can name.
My crack about the “Vert” (whatever that is) is that nobody from the US won, I haven’t heard of them, oh, they’re from Brazil, “Oh, that explains why I haven’t heard of them. Sarcasm, boy, sarcasm. I wouldn’t know any of the US skaters either.
Could you try making this particular “low blow” a bit more clear?
Your apparent contention is that skateboarding can lead to fame and fortune.
Yet none of the “top” boarders can even make it to most of the events. This is not indicative of lots of money. (It might be due to broken bones, however.) How many golf tournaments is Tiger Woods not able to make it to? Phil Mickelson? Hell, even Vijay Singh makes it to almost all of ‘em.
In other words, the top skateboarders aren’t rich enough to make it to all the competitions. Which makes it extremely unlikely they’re earning enough to make pdb jealous. Thus, the “low blow”. Because it shatters your myth that skaters are getting famous and rich – one has. One. I bet you know more people out of me small areas of interest than just one.
no one likes to have something they love insulted.
You’re entirely correct here. But you’ve defended skating ineffectively, by defending people who defied the law, verbal warnings, and whined when it was physically demonstrated to them why it was a bad idea. pdb was insulting the idiot skaters, and you defended them and accepted them when you attacked pdb and hoped that they’d get rich and famous and beat him up. (pdb probably wishes so, too, so he can sue and have more leisure time.)
But they didn’t get famous and rich. I don’t know that they’re all in jail now – but I’d bet more than 2 of them are currently on probation and/or in jail right this minute, and that all of them have criminal records.
Or “It’s the way to bet”.
Damn, that was long. I’m starting to get the feeling that this argument isn’t going anywhere. We’re both just insulting each other (though I’m getting the worst of it, since you have a horde of friends with you.) It would have been cool to convince some people that all skateboarders aren’t retards, but even if it was ever worth it for you to understand skateboarding, I’m fed up with trying. I’m going to have one more say, and then I’m done.
“Maybe you should stop arguing about how smart skaters are. I think everybody else who read that understood it.” I’ve mentioned before that I don’t really care what you think. I feel that way now more than ever. You had a ridiculous and unclear point, and when I asked you to clarify the point it became my fault instead of the fault of your unclear wording. Why would I want to argue(much less talk) to a person who follows up every single thing they say with insults? You never shut up about logic and intelligence, but however smart you think you are, all you can really do is back every flawed piece of logic with insults and even more ridiculous points.
“In other words, the top skateboarders aren’t rich enough to make it to all the competitions. Which makes it extremely unlikely they’re earning enough to make pdb jealous. Thus, the “low blow”. Because it shatters your myth that skaters are getting famous and rich – one has. One. I bet you know more people out of me small areas of interest than just one.”
Truthfully, this is the greatest example of a ridicule-worthy argument I’ve ever seen. You utterly failed to check any facts whatsoever, except one that suited your theory. I’m going to take a minute or two to chuckle… okay. You’re probably wondering why I’m laughing at you. Or maybe you’re just thinking of how immature that damn skate punk is. Either way, this is why I have so little respect for you. First of all, Tony Hawk is the only skateboarder you can name because you’re too stupid or lazy to support your argument by looking up any others. No contest records, no lists of prize money, just the name of a single retired vert(ical, as in the opposite of horizontal) skater. I mean, you learned enough to tell that he was a vert skater, wondered what that meant… and chose not to look it up. It would be unbelievable if I didn’t know you so well.
I did the work you should have done, and the first skate contest I found was the Maloof Money Cup. Chris Cole, one of those retards you haven’t heard of, won $100,000. Second place, Tommy Sandoval won $30,000. Third was thirteen year old Nyjah Huston, who walked away with $10,000. PDB, tell me of one day working in your video game store that you left with $100,000, and even if you did, my point stands. If you’re a good enough skateboarder, you will become rich. If you’re dedicated and talented (just like any other sport) you will become extremely wealthy. The Maloof Cup is just one of the many skateboarding contests with enormous payloads. It’s worth getting shouted at by some video game owner with a stick up his ass. I also want to point this out- if you’re concerned about only the criminal side of skateboarding, why not write a blog about gangs or drug dealers? Hell, rant about trespassers if you hate them so much. If a rollerblading kid came up and mugged me, do you think I’d go and bitch to my friends on the internet about how retarded every single roller blader is? Do you think any skateboarder in the world is going to sit there and think “Hey, those skater punks in the blog were jerks… I should stop having fun right now, because PDB and Unix-Jedi don’t like it when I do. When you insult people they feel bad, obviously. I didn’t like it when you called all the skateboarders retards. But I’m not going to change the way I enjoy myself because a few guys on the internet called me a retard.
“Yet none of the “top” boarders can even make it to most of the events.” That’s for a couple reasons. First, you didn’t check or cite any facts except that Brazillians won one contest in 2008. I’m not impressed. Second, skateboarding isn’t about contests and money (though there’s a lot of that to go around, too). It’s a way to get some exercise, meet some people, and have fun.
If all the skateboard contests in the world were cancelled tomorrow, there wouldn’t be one less skateboarder in the world because of it. No matter how much you and PDB and all your friends bitch and moan and spout shit about skateboarders, you’ll never do a thing about it. Skateboarders will always be around. I’m not going to stop skateboarding, no matter how stupid you think I am. It’s not because I’m ignorant, it’s because I’m having a hell of a lot more fun with my friends skateboarding than you are shitting on the skateboarders with PDB. There’s some gutter talk for you, bitch.
Also, I totally kicked your ass with the “nitpicking” definition.
Also, I totally kicked your ass with the “nitpicking” definition.
Actually, you didn’t. But if it makes you feel better I won’t argue with you further.
See, because when I demonstrated that you hadn’t made an argument at all until your third post? That’s way more damaging. It demonstrates that you don’t actually understand the concept of putting your point across.
Maybe you should stop arguing about how smart skaters are. I think everybody else who read that understood it.
I’ll stand by that, and you’re still missing the point, badly. Even when I’ve already explained it.
Truthfully, this is the greatest example of a ridicule-worthy argument I’ve ever seen.
You need to get out more. A lot more. Or learn to debate.
You utterly failed to check any facts whatsoever, except one that suited your theory.
Nothing to do with anything. My point: There is one skater I’ve heard of. One. He’s the only one in the media, and the only one that you would know of without looking anything up. Who was the top bridge player last year? Yes, you can look it up, but if you were to claim that whoever it happened to be was “famous” – unless they were famous for something else, it would be utterly stupid.
This is why I keep tossing insults your way, you’re way out of your league here.
First of all, Tony Hawk is the only skateboarder you can name because you’re too stupid or lazy to support your argument by looking up any others.
Because he’s the only famous skater. The only one. There Can Be Only One!
Hell, he might even suck, but he’s the only skater that I can name – or apparently you without looking it up!
You learned enough to tell that he was a vert skater, wondered what that meant… and chose not to look it up. It would be unbelievable if I didn’t know you so well.
You don’t know me well, and it shows. I didn’t know Hawk was “Vert”. I said that I didn’t know what a Vert competition was (the one all the Brazilians won) – I don’t care. It’s irrelevant to me and my life and my argument.
Chris Cole, one of those retards you haven’t heard of, won $100,000. Second place, Tommy Sandoval won $30,000. Third was thirteen year old Nyjah Huston, who walked away with $10,000. PDB, tell me of one day working in your video game store that you left with $100,000, and even if you did, my point stands.
Not really. In fact, your point doesn’t stand if you disclaim it that way.
See, this is where you need to learn to make an argument, stick to it, and read what the other people are writing.
Your argument as to payouts doesn’t mean anything. It’s not really an argument. $100k doesn’t make you “rich”, and as pro sports go, it’s decidedly chump change. And when 13 year olds are winning, that likewise doesn’t seem to be the hugely successful sport you’re describing. Almost like.. you’re wrong!
If you’re dedicated and talented (just like any other sport) you will become extremely wealthy.
Possibly, sure. But it’s extremely unlikely, and this is where your lack of experience is kicking in. $100k, $30k, $10k as a purse isn’t that impressive. You realize that in terms of money, you’re better off playing baseball, right? The average minor-leaguer makes at least $70k if he plays in the spring and winter leagues, and if he goes to the majors, it’s a minimum of $400k/year, and even if he goes back to the minors, he’ll pull over 200k/year just in the AAA leagues.
But at no point did pdb or I say that there’s no money to be made. It’s just not a lot of money. And it’s not to a lot of people. In fact, I suspect Tony Hawk makes more off his videogames and other merchandise than all the skating purses combined and quadrupled.
“Yet none of the “top” boarders can even make it to most of the events.” That’s for a couple reasons. First, you didn’t check or cite any facts except that Brazilians won one contest in 2008. I’m not impressed. Second, skateboarding isn’t about contests and money (though there’s a lot of that to go around, too). It’s a way to get some exercise, meet some people, and have fun.
But you just destroyed what you thought had been your first argument.
So, skating is, or is not, about money and fame? Pick one, stick to it. Now you’re waffling.
And you don’t have to be impressed, the point, that everybody else got, was that the “top skaters” weren’t famous, and I was joking that the reason I didn’t recognize the name was that they were from Brazil. Again, lose the snark, it doesn’t suit you at all, when you don’t know how to argue.
My point stands unrefuted, in counter to yours, that skating was – and the idiots skating illegally and dangerously – were likely to be rich and famous. You’ve now conceded both points, that they’re probably not rich OR famous. We knew it was about “meeting people and having ‘fun’”.
But the top – the BEST SKATERS – aren’t making enough to make it to all the competitions. That’s telling, and what it tells us is there isn’t riches on top of the half-pipe.
If all the skateboard contests in the world were cancelled tomorrow, there wouldn’t be one less skateboarder in the world because of it.
Again you’re whining.
So? pdb and I haven’t proposed banning skateboards. We haven’t talked about outlawing competitions or prizes or… anything. We’re making fun of the idiots who think skating is something it’s not.
I’m not going to stop skateboarding, no matter how stupid you think I am.
Well, again, technically, the stupider you are, the more likely you would be to keep skating…
It’s not because I’m ignorant
Hey! We know! We think you’re ignorant because you can’t make a coherent argument! (Seriously, if inside the space of a week you end up countering your own point, as badly made as it was, it’s time to stop considering yourself a master debater.)
it’s because I’m having a hell of a lot more fun with my friends skateboarding than you are shitting on the skateboarders with PDB. There’s some gutter talk for you, bitch.
Oh, I don’t think you are. Not at all.
Have fun! Toodles! Don’t skate where you’re not supposed to!
you are an ignorant intolerant fuck face if you ask me…and i think you should just go die….right now…please…do the human race a favor…honestly? why are you still here go blow your brains out…no you thought i was kidding….slit your stupid fucking wrists. Yea thats right…a white hot rage has taken over my being that could only be brought on by the most ignorant intolerant fuckface ive ever come across….you probably would have been a nazi in world war II….actually you might be hitler reincarnated im not sure but you seem to fit the profile….to hate skateboarding and skateboarders so vehemently just doesnt make sense….youre the intelligent one here im the dumb idiot that just doesnt get it and wastes my money on “fancy” pieces of wood to do what i love the most in the world….do i go make a blog and trash big fat faggots like you who love deep penetration from black cocks?….no sir i do not…thats your choice….the fact that you love hot fat juicy black penises spewing their chunky load in your loose dirty inbred asshole doesnt concern me…so please dont concern yourself with what us skateboarders do…because your whole view on reality is pretty skewed….in a retarded ignorant way thats just unbearable…if you were in this room right now i would punch you in the face and then while you were crying on the floor id piss on you…tie you down…..and stop using the toilet for a week and just go on you haha..enjoy the rest of your sad meaningless existence
and pleasssssssseeeeee email me….i want your ignorant response i really do….i thrive off the views of cockheads like you
by the way……i heart you chuffson
You are aware that this post is five years old, and a year after the “chuffson” thread?
AND WE HAVE ANOTHER CONTESTANT!
YES! STOPPING UP IS MR. CALEB LATONA!
To prove that skaters aren’t idiots, and are able to play well with others!
you are an ignorant intolerant fuck face if you ask me
OOOooh, not a good start, not a good start, Caleb! Seems that you’re supporting pdb’s point, as chuffson did!
a white hot rage has taken over my being that could only be brought on by the most ignorant intolerant fuckface ive ever come across
And you’re being tolerant here? See, it’s sad. I blame the public schools. Let me guess, you actually have a diploma somewhere from a school that purports to have taught you something?
See, you’re not being tolerant, you’re being rather intolerant, and accusing pdb of being intolerant. This isn’t adding to any sort of rebuttal of pdb’s point.
you probably would have been a nazi in world war II
Let’s see.. Who’s got the greatest overlap with Nazis… Game store owners, or skateboarders? I’m pretty sure the skinhead culture which has a good degree of overlap with the neo-nazis are far closer than a game store owner. Of course, the amount of intellectual genius illustrated is further proof you’re closer than pdb, after all, “Aryans” are out of India, and hardly blond or blue-eyed.
if you were in this room right now i would punch you in the face and then while you were crying on the floor id piss on you…tie you down…..and stop using the toilet for a week and just go on you haha..enjoy the rest of your sad meaningless existence
Big words from a little man. No, you wouldn’t, you’d mutter under your breath and whine about those fuckers.
i thrive off the views of cockheads like you
Well, it’s for sure you don’t thrive from literature, works of art, or even doing a crossword daily, so I suppose you have to try and make up for your ignorance with a lot of swagger, bluster, and exaggerated homophobia. Hey, it’s OK. We don’t _care_ that you’re gay. Just that you’re an idiot who can’t read the signs.
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