Comments on: American Defense Enterprises: Epic Facepalm In 3 Parts

By: Tam

Tam — Mon, 11 Mar 2013 04:38:15 +0000

Shut up. Grown ups are talking, here.

By: Travis Brown

Travis Brown — Sat, 09 Mar 2013 07:49:57 +0000

The huge bucket of fail that is ADE is a shining example of all that is wrong with the firearms training industry. It is completely amazing to me that people can so completely fool themselves in to thinking they are actually “good” at something, when they are really a complete trainwreck. It is always good to have friends that are straight up and won’t hesitate to call you on your BS or tell you when you suck, so you can reevaluate and improve. PDB, thanks for your hard work in pointing these guys out for what they really are.

By: J

Tue, 08 Jan 2013 07:18:51 +0000

I’ve taken classes with ADE at the indoor range and the shoot house. I’ve stacked with people I didn’t know before meeting that day. I went in first with three behind me. I did it as I was told to and I kept myself in a safe positon as we moved through the house. But I’ve also seen ADE video taping themselves live-fire shooting in a manner I didn’t agree with. But they are the ones in the videos, not students. Unless you train with them, then you don’t really know how much they train together. But I’m not trying to justify their videos.
In a class, other than one time, there is usually one instructor per two students. Safety rules are always reviewed. Multiple threat scenerios do cause you to go down-range and back up-range toward the firing line and, yes, the students and instructors, but your shown how to do this in a safe manner. Of course you only shoot down-range, but you have to move up range also… I think a lot of people watch the video and make comments but have never taken a class with them and that’s fine, it seems to be the norm. I’d probably take another indoor handgun class. You don’t have to learn house-clearing in order to learn how to be proficient with a handgun.

By: pdb : Do A Barrel Roll!

pdb : Do A Barrel Roll! — Fri, 07 Sep 2012 17:59:07 +0000

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By: johnny b

johnny b — Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:05:05 +0000

has anyone here been to one of his classes? i am just wondering, because like the videos say something, and maybe, once you are there it might be different???

By: I feel so lonely sometimes | Misfires And Light Strikes

I feel so lonely sometimes | Misfires And Light Strikes — Fri, 27 Jul 2012 23:04:32 +0000

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By: I almost crapped myself watching some of their videos | Seattle Training Group

Mon, 16 Apr 2012 19:25:38 +0000

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By: Reckless

Reckless — Mon, 12 Mar 2012 01:51:51 +0000

Holy shit that is reckless. Faking your background makes it even worse.

Glad to see more people are wising up about this kinda crap

http://hammerheadcombatsystems.org/2011/07/06/the-self-defense-training-community-circus/

http://www.firearmstrainingandtactics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1390&page=2

By: Chuck Hardin

Chuck Hardin — Sat, 15 Oct 2011 04:12:37 +0000

Beasley likes to tell his students that he has a Special Forces background:

http://calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?p=6741008#post6741008

That’s what his school told me:

http://www.naming-schemes.org/~chardin/bbeasley/email1.html

That’s what he told me, too:

http://www.naming-schemes.org/~chardin/bbeasley/email2.html

Too bad it’s a total lie!

http://www.naming-schemes.org/~chardin/bbeasley/na-13164.pdf

Oops!

By: Scarey places/ Most scared

Scarey places/ Most scared — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 00:46:11 +0000

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